Just My Two Copper - WoW Gold Guide

Mommar here.

If there is one thing I have said time and time again, Time is money. Granted, it isn't the most original of concepts (long before the Goblins adopted this idea).

In World of Warcraft this is translated to how much time does it take to make your gold. Anyone can make gold if they try. The determination is whether it is the simplest of ways (working on quests, selling raw materials) or much more complex methods (Incarnations of the Saronite shuffle, flipping items etc.). Each of ways can make gold, it mostly depends on how much time you have and just where you place your resources.

This is going to become even more important when the Warlords of Draenor open up its portals for business. Many people will be running around the new version of Draenor when the expansion hits the shelves. New items and new materials to craft and sell. But one of the biggest changes with the garrisons and how they affect the market.

Remember that everyone will be able to create Garrisons. It appears that they will be able to start creating them early in the expansion. Halfhill had a limitation, you were required to complete and ultimately had to hit level 90 before the farm could be put into full motion. Garrisons won't have this limitation it appears. We already know that Garrisons will have all of the major and minor professions, if not in a limited capacity. This will probably mean that a regular miner who can get x amount of ore per node attached will be competing with a non miner who can get their own ore if they are patient. The same thing applies to all of the other professions.

The other thing to keep in mind is that through the different notes and Alpha testing there is already been reported to have garrison only recipes. The specifics are still wondering before a wall of silence from the testers. Supposition basically says to the casual player they will not be needing as much raw material as has been sold in the past from the Auction House.

But don't panic just yet and start creating an army of scribes. There will still be a high demand for all of the professions. Many players are impatient and let their gold they have accumulated overpower the time to create the materials and items on their own. It just means that as a gold goblin you will have to be more shrewd with your time management.

So as we start to count down to the beta release and full release of Warlords of Draenor, keep your time management in mind. How much time are you spending to obtain your raid necessities? How much time are you spending to obtain that uber mount you want. And how much time are you spending running around the dollars trying to find another dime.

Time is money. And I've got my money on my time.

Good Luck and Good Profit Hunting

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The Art of Negotiation: Warcraft Style

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 1:23 PM

There are two sides to every deal. The buyer and the seller. Seems simple enough, doesn't it? You have the buyer who wants to obtain something for the least amount of resources (gold, time, effort). You have the seller that wants to get the most resources for the item/time they are offering.

I added gold, time and effort into the equation because in the negotiations of World of Warcraft all three become commodities. Your time and effort can easily replace gold simply from questing or running raids/instances. Effort is just how much you will go somewhere to obtain what you want from the other person.

I ran into this yesterday as I was in negotiations to purchase another guild. I needed one as a hiding place for a couple of my up and coming toons. It was a 4 slot guild that had 'some items' still in the bank. Not going into specifics the seller offered in general chat the guild for x amount of gold.

There are certain questions I always ask when purchasing the guild.

1) What is the name of the guild (don't really like inappropriate names for guilds I own)
2) Does anyone else still belong? (This is important because there have been some guilds that were sold
Without other members knowing until they logged out the next day.)
3) What level guild is it? (The higher the level of the guild the more lucrative that the benefits can be)
4) What items still exist in the guild bank (if they are good items you can easily recoup your investment)

So I offered what I considered a fair price opening up the negotiations. Generally, I half the price that they offer unless it is an extremely good opening salvo. They counter offered and then I accepted at about 75% of the original price they wanted. Win/Win right?

So I logged over to my toon that would take over the guild I contacted the seller. After a delay they informed me that someone had offered full price. Disappointed that the seller didn't keep his word as far as the deal for a measly couple of gold I just thanked him and went my merry way.

But here is the thing to keep in mind. I have said it many times that your word is your bond. It may seem very fleeting when dealing with online gaming. Players do not have the direct attachment to their toons that they have to their real lives. If I make a deal with someone, then I expect them to keep up with them. That expectation goes both ways. I have sold items that others came along quickly and offered me twice as much gold. I had to tell them the item was sold simply because my word was more valuable to me than ethereal gold.

I'm also someone who believes in Karma. If you do good things then good things will happen to you. If you do things that are questionable, then the questionable things will occur. This may seem like an old concept, but it is one that has ruled both my gaming and my real world life for years.

So the moral of this little story? There really isn't any. Not everything needs a moral, unless you want to add one of your own.

Good Luck and Good Profit Hunting

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Cooking For Fun and Profit

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 12:20 PM

Worth What Someone Will Pay For It

The basic sales techniques to make gold in Warcraft is crafted through either Jewelcrafting, Leatherworking, Blacksmithing, Inscription or even the Tirion of professions, Engineering.

But many gold goblins forget that you can make a lot of gold, leveling and selling cooking supplies. Middle level buff food as well as max level raiding food was making gold by the bucketfuls for many players. It took time, supplies and some farming obtain enough points with all of the different Halfhill residents to get the best recipes.

We already have rumblings that there will be similar gold making strategies with cooking during the WOD expansion. There is already some ideas of just what raw ingredients will be needed and combined for in demand recipes.

So that's the good news. The bad news? Remember how you have never leveled fishing on any of your toons? From the alpha notes and others who have played the game, fishing is going to be heavily linked to your cooking. Again the same happened with the Mists of Pandaria expansion.. It was possible to level your cooking without needing a high level fisher, but it became that much more expensive.

The other not so fun news is that many of the already revealed recipes have components that are obtained via Herbalism. Most players who have inscription have an herbalist running around grasspicking, but the others gold goblins abandoned Herbalism to level a more profitable profession.

Warlords of Draenor are lining up to be a different headed beast when it comes to making gold. Less mass production and more selective production of items. If this trend continues, then a skilled gold goblin will need to learn how to mix and max professions in their toon army to keep profit margins high.

Still having 3 plus months of Pandaland exploration to go there is plenty of time to maximize your secondary professions on multiple toons. Fishing and cooking could easily become the hidden goldmine that gold goblins exploit to their advantage.

Good Luck and Good Profit Hunting.

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Have You Hugged Your Yak Today?

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 12:30 PM

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Mommar here.

Let's face facts. Having a large pile of gold is a good thing in a game such as World of Warcraft. It opens up a lot of options for toons. Gearing a toon quickly to raid level just requires a quick visit to the Auction House and perhaps a few visits to players with select professions. Want a pet? Buy it from the AH. See something you want from someone, drop a few pieces of gold and it is yours. When it comes to gold, if you have you you like it, when you don't you want it.

Mists of Pandaria brought into the game one of the best mounts when it comes to usefulness. The Grand Expedition Yak was introduced and quickly sought after by gold goblins everywhere. The ability to not just buy basic provisions and sell your gray items would have been awesome just by itself. Being able to drag along a Reforger for all of your gear changing needs was icing on the cake. The 120,000 price tag without any time of discount was definitely a kick in the gold teeth. But once you had it the usefulness was apparent.

With Warlords of Draenor and saying goodbye to the Reforging utility the Yak loses a little bit of its shine. It hasn't been revealed just what will happen with this multi player useful mount. But as my mind was rattling along I came up with some possible suggestions to the powers that be:

1. Portable Forge/Anvil Carrier

This guy only has one purpose in life. Lug a 200 lb Anvil that on request drops a combination forge/Anvil for all your Blacksmithing needs. Basically this would be a free version of the Thermal Anvil.

2. Portal Carrier

Ever wanted your own pocket mage? One that can make a portal to certain cities and zones? Even if the portals were on an extended cooldown just being able to occasionally zip from one area to another would be very useful. Being able to create one that party members could use would be even more valuable.

3. Mirror to your Garrison

This would be much trickier to pull off. One of the things with Garrisons that we know of is that you will be able to level up your minions/followers to cover professions that you do not have on your characters. Unless they have a high level access point the odds are that you will have to return to your garrison to have access to these professions. What if your friendly neighborhood yak could give you access to them? Set up a vendor that allows you to set your professions on their missions, collect the gear and even have them craft something for you on the fly.

There are many options that can be done with the traveling yak circus to replace the usefulness of the Reforging ability. Hopefully Blizzard will reward the players who sank the money into this awesome mount and encourage players to return to the plains of Pandaria for their own thundering yak of usefulness.

Good Luck and Good Profit Hunting

Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbear @ gmail. Dot com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up, and I will buy you a glass of juice.

Leave Your 'Tude At The Door

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 2:40 PM

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Mommar here.

If you want to refer to my 'career' with World of Warcraft, I should be thankful to many of the people I have met in and out of the game itself. There are people even to this day that I consider close friends, others that I have had the honor of meeting even if it was for a fleeting moment.

But then some weeks tend to be more difficult than others. To the point that you start to wonder whether the reputation, gold and experience is truly worth it. As I have said before, I am running some of the older Mists of Pandaria raids for gold and reputation. There is this mental itch I have that when I see a non exalted reputation I must finish it off. In this case I do all of the Throne of Thunder raids i can get during the week. These raids include the dreaded LFR that everyone finds so tasty on the brain.

Most of the time these go off without a hitch. Poke Durumu in the eye with a big pointy stick, ride Tortos like a bronco even get a little shock to the system with Lei Shen.

But this week seemed to be a cavalcade of grumpy players. Players looking to pick fights for the smallest problem. Then a full blown meltdown if there was a wipe. Remember this content was the new shiny raids not 6 months ago. Most players are overgeared for the content, but there is still a certain amount of possibility of dying a horrid game death. But no one really signs on to be the target of someone's abuse.

Having spent easily 10,000g on repairs over the years I have been playing, seeing a raid fail to a boss is a normal experience. You just pick up, look to see what can be fixed and move on. If nothing can be solved, then it is time to leave the raid and go find something else to do. But there are times I feel I am in the minority when it comes to this attitude.

Noob, idiot, *&*$ and other words that would get you punched out in the real world get slung around as normal conversation. My raid can joke with me and tell me I'm weak sauce, but everyone has their limits. Lately my patience to have to listen to people go off for silly reasons has become less and less. Most of the time players will just direct it at the random player, but occasionally someone will shoot their mouth in my general direction. One raid i ended up dying due to poor tanking/healing and was accused of taking 'too much damage'. If I had failed in the mechanics I would have completely agreed with them. The wise player knows they are never 100% perfect, but in this case every movement out of raid damage was done correctly. Seemed this player also didn't understand how an arms warrior works when well geared. Hearing 'why is the warrior doing so much AOE damage' finally got me to respond. After explaining in a slow, precise matter that an arms warrior has 3 different cleaves that automatically go off you will get AOE damage. Along with this explanation was the fact that this player needed to be more worried about their low dps (under 100k) than putting the blame on everyone but their own shoulders.

Later this bothered me not because of the words I had used. What bothered me was that I had let his rash silliness get to me and take away my enjoyment of the raid. There will always be hotheads, always be players that troll for attention. There will always be players to be carried with a dps wheelbarrow. Raid wipes will occur no matter the skill of a group. But my attitude is what I choose it to be. I can choose to react or I can choose to walk away. Either choice is viable and functional.

The same goes for the good days and bad days of making gold. Our attitudes attach themselves to whether we can be successful or not. Making lots of gold is fun. Making lots of gold in the game without losing all mental sanity is even better. So enjoy the game with a good spirit and less stress. And remember there is always the choice to turn off the game and take a breath. It is a game and you make the choice of what attitude you bring.

Good Luck and Good Gold Hunting

Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbear @ gmail. Dot com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up, and I will buy you a glass of juice.

Going Looney over the Lunar Festival

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 11:15 AM

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Mommar here

Over the months I have given a lot of grief to the powers that be that they need to update many of the best holidays in World of Warcraft. Just adding a few holiday bosses would add a lot to the draw of these older holidays.

The Lunar Festival is not one on my list that needs to be updated. There is already a world boss, Omen Having been around in the old days of watching him wipe out entire raids quickly and seeing multiple people needing to run back to take another whack at him brings the way world bosses used to feel. Not to just kill a boss because he dropped great loot, but simply because that is what you did with friends.

As I was flying around on one of my characters picking up the different Festival elders for the holiday and collecting Coins of Ancestry. I still had all of the frilly dresses that you could purchase with the coins in my bank so my major interest in getting coins on all of my toons was for the Festival Lanterns. When these first came out they were a hot commodity to transfer to an alliance toon/buddy and sell for obscene amounts of gold. Now the transfer over to the opposite faction is much easier since pet books are linked across factions and across servers.

Setting aside the quest for gold (I know, blasphemy here) but this holiday is just beautiful to see and enjoy. From dropping into a alliance controlled zone to pick up a coin to looking at the coordinates you downloaded from the guide to figure out the fastest way to get to the next zone. Combining this with the occasional pick-up of pets that I didn't have it becomes a change of pace from just running Timeless Isle and Siege of Orgrimmar.

Where many people are stuck inside from the latest blitz of cold weather finding something that brings warmth and joy is important. Escapism is the biggest draw for Warcraft and this holiday is the best place to escape from.

The Lunar Festival it hasn't changed that much so here is a link to the Icy-Veins guide for 2014 which they deserve all the credit for putting together. Link

Take this weekend and stop and smell the Lunar Festival. Not just for the profit, but just because this is one of the most enjoyable holidays of the Warcraft Calender.

Good Luck and Good Profit Hunting

Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbear @ gmail. Dot com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up, and I will buy you a glass of juice.

Cleaning Out The Closet (Achievement Edition)

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 10:47 AM

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Mommar here.

On the server reset day I tend to be a busy little Azerothian beaver. Pushing 5 toons through Ordos and Celestial runs can fill up a lot of time. Add to this list wanting to finish up the epic quest line for my hunter, which ends up running TOT looking for raid runs when they pop up. Also include my timeless isle farming, plus two favorite shows being on TV I tend to stay busy on Tuesdays.

Then things start to slow down into the normal questing grind and picking up spot flex raid runs during the week. By Saturday night or Sunday I have started to need a palette cleanser of sorts. I have said before that I tend to keep Sunday's open to running old instances and raids for fun and profit.

One of the things I wanted to pick up before Warlords of Draenor was a Hellreaver Polearm before the next expansion. When this first dropped while leveling it was the coolest thing to lug around. Being the time well before Transmogrification was available to players I had to Vendor it to clear out some bag space. Now with a large amount of spaces to put things I finally picked up another one by soloing Hellfire Ramparts. Then proceeding to work on my Raids that I wanted specific items from I went over to Northrend to run the Eye of Eternity. Two Mounts, Reins of the Azure Drake and Reins of the Blue Drake drop from here. As I was finishing up with smacking Malygos around the achievement You Don't Have An Eternity popped up as completed. This was one of those achievements that I had forgotten about and had never completed during the Wrath of the Lich King expansion.

Popping up the Achievement browser I started eyeballing through all of the achievements that I had not completed. Little bits and pieces started jumping out at me of items I could complete. These didn't offer any gold or mounts or titles for myself. Finishing them would purely be of the 'yay, I did that' variety of life.

As I was running around and flying in a different area I ended up getting tied into a Wintergrasp fight. It had been a long time to be in Wintergrasp, but six of us got together and whooped some Alliance around the field of battle. Then I decided to give a try to finish up the Earth, Wind and Fire (10 man) achievement. This is the achievement that you have to kill all four bosses inside the instance within 60 seconds of each other. After doing a quick lookup I gave it a try. Failing miserably (don't worry true believers I killed them all but couldn't get them all together in a pack to smack them around inside the 60 seconds).

There are plenty of other achievements that are floating around the World of Warcraft for players to finish up. Instance, raid and even PVP achievements sitting there ripe for the picking and completing. So the next time you get bored and sitting in your home city go run out somewhere and look up what achievements you can finish. Not just for gold, but purely for the enjoyment of the game.

Good Luck and Good Profit Hunting

Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbear @ gmail. Dot com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up, and I will buy you a glass of juice.

1k gold by level 10

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 12:47 PM

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As I was walking through Ogrimmar finishing up on auction house chores a discussion came up on trade chat. Someone had made a claim that they had hit 1000g by level 10.

Having told the story previously about my first toon, scraping for every copper and silver I could see how those that were not familiar with gold making would be skeptical. The average player still believes that the only way to make gold is to quest, finish dailies and sell the occasional blue item on the AH. Being unfamiliar with the tactics of a gold goblin limits their funds to a minimum.

After about 5 minutes of discussion including a couple of 'liar liar pants on fire' comments I decided to walk away to finish up my chores. This may seem a little selfish because I could have easily popped off a few ideas on how they made their 1000g. But the proverbial pearls before swine would have existed.

So how did the guy make 1000g in his first 10 levels? Not having exactly how the blueprint went for them I can only speculate on what occurred:

1. Sold everything on the AH.

There is still a large market for low level materials. Especially copper/tin ore and Peacebloom to multiple professions. This became more difficult since you obtain XP for each item that you pick/mine.

2. Green/Blue items dropped and were sold

Players still buy low level items for transmog purposes. Also for leveling of alt toons.

3. The player started flipping items on the Auction House

It would not be that difficult once a player reaches a few gold in their pocket to start reinvesting these into the Auction House. A couple of flips can get them to 100g pretty quickly. After 100g you can just imagine 1000g is right over the horizon.

These are just a few of the ideas that came to mind on how they hit 1000g before level 10. There are many more farming spots for mobs that could be killed quickly and looted. So the next time someone says 'that isn't possible' take a few steps back and imagine whether you can do it. Think of it as a puzzle that maybe only you know the answer.

Good Luck and Good Hunting

Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbear @ gmail. Dot com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up, and I will buy you a glass of juice.

You Can't Make Gold????

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 12:08 PM

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One thing in the game of World of Warcraft that will never change is the quest for gold. Good or bad players have an opinion on how to make gold. 'It's too hard....' can be heard everywhere as some players expect to be handed gold in bags.

Mists of Pandora streamlined making gold with its basic idea. If you want to make basic gold you can finish dailies and quests. If you want to make stupid amounts of gold you can finish dailies, run instances and raids. Making obscene amounts of gold will have you playing the auction house.

What making gold will not do is allow you to be lazy. This may sound harsh but it really does grind my gears to hear people say they can't make gold. Take this for instance:

Timeless Isle offers the quest A Timeless Question which drops 45g into your pocket for answering a question.
Running your first daily instance drops 15g into your pocket for less than 15 minutes of running. This doesn't include any gear you disenchant or vendor.
Running a scenario drops another 15g into your pocket with the possibility of more gear to vendor or disenchant
Farming formats (skinning, mining, etc.) on timeless isle and all over Pandaria is easy. Filling up your bag for materials takes less time than it does to complain about how difficult it is to make gold.

Even at level 90 all of the old quests are worth double the gold. Running through Northrend content from the Lich King expansion and the revamped world of Cataclysm adds even more opportunities to place gold in your pocket.

So every time you hear someone complain about making gold being hard, smile and just keep on doing what puts gold into your pocket. Working smarter and putting in the time and effort to not just enjoy the game but enjoy having enough gold to buy anything you like.

Good Luck and Good Hunting

Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbear @ gmail. Dot com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up, and I will buy you a glass of juice.

Targeting Sales

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 12:19 PM