Patch 5.2: Know They Economy

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 12:38 PM

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Mommar here.

As myself and many players are prepping for Patch 5.2 and the explosion of changes,   I wanted to talk to you about some of the basics.

I believe it is just as important to not just point at what to buy,  what to sell or resell but also important to know what drives every economy.   The players and expectations of buyers and sellers behind the scenes.

As an expansion matures the goals of the players change along with the days and expectations.  Whether the economy is slow in some sorts or more robust.  Playing to the strengths and weaknesses of the server becomes just as important as what to stock for the next patch.

With the new patch there will be lots of opportunities in each discipline.   The key to being on top is to know what others will want.  If you have a large collection of tanks and DPS specs that have Leatherworking requirements,  placing your emphasis on crafting and knowledge of Leatherworking becomes an asset.  If you have many plate wearers that are looking for materials,  then your knowledge and technique becomes your driving force for sales.

But also look at bucking the trends.  There are many different items available just simply because they are abandoned by others.   Many engineers bemuse sales and what isn't seen as big ticket items but the sales of Ghost Iron Dragonling to leveling players still go strong.

Look to see what is selling,  and what is also preparing to be sold.  Keeping your eyes open both in instances and in town can give you just where an economy is going.   Sales are not a guesswork for a server but a complete view of how the entity lives.

Keep your head above the flow and know your server.

Good Luck and Good Hunting


Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbearjoe @ gmail. dOT com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up and I will buy you a glass of juice. 

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But How Much Is It?

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 5:02 PM

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Through most of my life I have worked hourly jobs.  Whether it was through temp agencies or being hired directly.  There is a certain ebb and flow when it comes to punching a time clock and looking at a paycheck that should be just a little bit more.

Many people in today's economy save through different methods.   They drop the money in the bank and never see it again til they need it.  Others will live check to check without any savings at all.  Living on credit cards and hopes for the future.

Warcraft players are no different in how they work with the WOW economy.  Every day their crafters will make gold (their paychecks).   Players dream of what they want and how to obtain these items.   Investments occur that will allow them to obtain more in their daily paychecks to save towards more expensive items.

One of the methods I've always used to save money in my real life is to figure out exactly how much in hourly wages an item would cost.   If I worked for 8 dollars an hour,  then that meal at McDonalds costing me 10 dollars would cost me an hour and a half of work.   An item costing 100 dollars costs me 12-14 hours etc.  

The same idea can be applied to your World of Warcraft professions.   That ring on the Black Market Auction House costing 30,000g would cost you at least 10 sales at 3000g profit a piece.   Larger profitable items would cut the amount of sales necessary to obtain the wanted ring.   Each time the cost goes up,  the more necessary your profession masters have to hustle sales and eat up more time
and planning.

I was watching an Auction on the Black Market Auction House last night on my home server.  It was for a heroic ring that dropped from one of the later raid bosses.  The bidding had been bumped up to 110,000g.   For most gold goblins that is a hefty amount to invest for a ring that will be replaced with the next patch.   Many players would sell their guild to have 110,000g in the bank.   Many players will never reach that level in their gaming life.   Not without a lot of work and a little luck.

So the question rides how much is something worth when you purchase it in World of Warcraft?  Each item you buy carries a cost of your time and your effort and even the connection of a sale between players.  With Mists of Pandaria being slightly more difficult to earn gold,  each sale becomes that much more precious to hold onto.  And each amount of gold becomes that much more valuable in the end.

So purchasing wisely becomes just as important as what crafters you level and what items you look to sell.   Keep that in mind when you look to purchase your next shiny item for your character.  What is the true answer to how much something is worth?

Good Luck and Good Hunting


Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbearjoe @ gmail. dOT com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up and I will buy you a glass of juice. 

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Dailies For The Second String

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 10:36 AM

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Mommar here.

Many players are knee deep in their first or second character that they are leveling to 90.   Wading through the quests,  and cut scenes and overall enjoyment of Mists of Pandaria.

But what about those lonely alts that are sitting in their home cities doing nothing but holding items until they are called on.  Until they are needed for their crafting ability or just for entertainment.

One thing to consider is to take some time and add them to the mix of your daily 'chores'.   During holidays such as Brewfest there are many quests that can be knocked out in a small amount of time.   Finishing all the quests for Brewfest takes about 30 minutes the first day,  and around 10 minutes the rest of the holiday.   If you add up both of the daily quests during Brewfest you end up with around 100,000 xp per day at 85.   Also included in this during Brewfest is the access to the Brewfest tokens to purchase the two pets (Pint-Sized Pink Pachyderm and Wolpertinger's Tankard) for resell on the battle pet market.

Brewfest isn't the only holiday to offer quests with little time involved to finish.   Almost all of the holidays have simple to finish quests that offer rewards regardless of level.   Having more XP when you later on start your questing in Mists of Pandaria allows you to arrive to your maximum level that much faster.   All for a little investment of time.

Profession dailies also add to your profession point total with just that investment time.   Whether it's fishing or cooking,  having your second or third string characters starting to level their professions before hitting the turf of Pandaria can be very beneficial.

Taking a look at your daily quest opportunities can add not just a little bit of variance to your chore list, but also set you in a higher plateau once your ready to start leveling the backup dancers on your character list.

Good Luck and Good Hunting


Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbearjoe @ gmail. dOT com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up and I will buy you a glass of juice. 

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Resetting The Plan

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 6:00 PM

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Mo-Man here.

There are times that I wonder if the readers of these entries truly believe that these are the same techniques that I use to obtain my gold.   Similar to the infomercials that play on late night tv for the chop-o-fix-o-matic that guarantees that it will cut and slice through anything.  The same people that you will swear probably have a personal chef and hasn't hit that supposedly useful treadmill in 10 years.

Well,  to set things straight these are the same techniques that I use.  And generally I will tell you the truth whether they are successful or not.   In the past week I haven't been able to put all of my techniques in place due to limited game play.

Where I did find the leveling of professions on some very easy (alchemy is just completely insane on how fast it can level) to the known limitations that Blacksmithing and Leatherworking have (minimum level 87 to maximize the profession).  The money options have been less than successful when it comes to recouping my investment.

There are definitely certain items that shouldn't surprise me are still successful in selling.  Where all of the major epic weapons/armor sales have fallen by the wayside.   My engineer is still racking up the occasional sale from Flintlocke's Woodchucker.   Selling those have balanced out the lack of sales in the Jewelcrafting department.  

So I find myself into a quandry with the idea of resetting some of my ideas and taking a loss.   Wrath gems for now are relatively dead.   Where the blank gems can be converted something saleable, some of them have become vendor bait.  

Other long term investments such as pets and vanity items are taking a back seat to character leveling 
and profession leveling.   Players do not have as much free capitol to be able to purchase vanity items
or throw away items.   But then Mists of Pandaria expansion  is here for at least a year and a half
if not longer.

So has the panic bus pulled up to JMTC central?   Not yet,   I'm still in the plus column for MOP overall.
And I have yet to cut into any of the reserves I set aside for my rainy day fund.   Each profession had a 
certain amount set to invest towards leveling.  And two out of the 5 are on the plus side currently.  But
the changes in the professions have definitely taken its toll on expected sales.

So what's the lesson to be learned here?   That sometimes you can reset where you are at and figure
bottom level of success.    We are here for a marathon of sales,  and this was one small race in a much
longer series of races.   So look at where you are at now,   reset your thought processes if need be
and measure your success.   

Mike Tyson was quoted as saying  "everyone has a plan til someone gets punched in the face".   So 
if you were surprised by your lack of money making in the first week of Mists of Pandaria.  Consider
it your punch in the face and you have 11 more rounds to go.  

Good Luck and Good Hunting


Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbearjoe @ gmail. dOT com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up and I will buy you a glass of juice. 

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The Professions Race To 87

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 6:04 PM

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Mommar Here.

Many new players to the gold goblin game are having to change their strategy when it comes to making gold.   The tried and true methods,   flipping entry level armor,  BOA enchants,  Bags,  and many others are slowly working their way up to profitable levels.

But Mists of Pandaria profession changes have made it nearly impossible to maximize any of the professions without obtaining a hallway pass into the Vale of Eternal Blossoms.   This is where the PVP patterns and epic patterns are now housed for the Tailoring,  Blacksmithing,  and Leatherworking.  Jewelcrafting has its own hurdles to be able to maximize its profit potential.

With the abundance of materials on the auction house market,  and the obtain access to the higher level profession recipes,  it has changed the shift in mentality from worrying about crafting to leveling alternate crafters first.  This definitely evens out the playing field for crafters.  But it is making it that much more important to level their crafters up to the magic level of 87.

The biggest challenge to gold goblins will be time management.   It's difficult to decide whether to level the Jewelcrafter or the Leatherworker.   And even after 87 will it become that much more important to level non raiding toons beyond 87?   The biggest question is how will this play out later on?   How will this play out in future patches?  

The other question with materials being so abundant is will that drive down the prices to may of the medium level items crafted?   Players made legendary amounts of gold just from selling PVP blue armor.  The patterns have been easily available during Wrath with just needing to use self crafted items.  With Mists of Pandaria players will need to farm Mote of Harmony to create Spirits of Harmony on their own.   With the Motes of Harmony will Bind on Pickup,  a crafter can no longer just purchase the currency from the AH.

So players will have to both level up to at least 87 and farm for Motes of Harmony to be at the top of their gold goblin game.   Not impossible,  but definitely puts a change in many players leveling strategy.

These changes make gold making challenging for long term crafters.   It will be interesting if any of these changes with the next patch.  Until then,  be prepared to level up both your mains and your alts in your personal cartel to be on the cutting edge of gold making prestige.


Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbearjoe @ gmail. dOT com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up and I will buy you a glass of juice. 

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Slow Markets Do Not Mean No Markets

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 6:06 PM

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Mists of Pandaria have been a mixed bag for Gold Goblins.   Some that have kept to basic strategies have been raking in large amounts of gold on some servers.  Other Gold Goblins are struggling to keep above the shoreline with their fortunes.

The key to any fortune is to know timing and why things happen.   Jewelcrafting took a major hit with the lack of a viable Jewelcrafting shuffle.  But the Jewelcrafting market will continue to lead the way in the long run.   

This weekend will tell a lot of what occurs in the rest of the expansion.  Many players will be getting 
their first taste of Pandarian cooking.   Casual players that only play on the weekend will load up the
expansion and get to enjoy the green grass of a new home.  

There are still places to make money with Pandaria.   Flipping profession items will still contain a lot of 
unfound gold.   Very few have reached the BMAH on servers,  and even fewer have reached raid status 
where enchants and Jewelcrafting cuts will kick into being highly prized looks.

The Gathering professions will continually make the most constant income in the next few days.  With 
Brewfest here there will be many distractions to play with.   Keeping your eye on the prize and leveling
while maintaining your gold making strategies will keep your Warcraft business advancing.

Good Luck and Good Hunting


Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbearjoe @ gmail. dOT com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up and I will buy you a glass of juice. 

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MOP Prep:   Zero Balance Investment

Leveling professions - Easysauce

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 11:54 AM

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Hello.  My name is Johnny Cash.

Ok,  so it's not Johnny.  But you have to admit he has an awesome name to use for an intro.

Veterans of World of Warcraft will reminisce about the good old days of earlier expansions.   Sometimes you will also hear the war stories of players who were with the original launch of the game years ago.

Even todays players who play the game between expansions will talk about the changes and the 'good ole days' of the expansion gaming when they started.  One of the most significant changes has been professions and how they are leveled.

The profession level and difficulty has become increasingly less and less with each expansion.

Vanilla Wow  - 1-300
Burning Crusade 300-375
Wrath of the Lich King  375-450
Cataclysm   450- 525
Mists of Pandaria  525-600

Each profession has added certain quirks for leveling (Cataclysm was the first one that required to open up a higher level zone to complete profession leveling).   But as the changes occurred,  it seems that the material needs to maximize profession points have decreased.

Take for instance Blacksmithing.   Using Kaliope's guide you need 12.5 bars of Ghost Iron and 1 spirit of Harmony.  Also included in this is the need to open of the Vale of the Eternal Blossoms  at 87 to purchase the PVP recipes.   This is the same mechanic that was used with the Cataclysm expansion to keep players from just sitting in a home zone and maximizing professions.

So what does this mean for Gold Goblins?   The easier that leveling a profession becomes,  the quicker that the profession can become viable for high end sales (PVP armor,  Epic Crafted items etc).   The other side of the goblin coin is that it makes for more competition.   Jewelcrafting when it first started was a rich goblins game.   Players had to invest a large amount of gold from the start to be viable in the market.  Now it has become much easier to be swimming in jewels and money.

So selection of markets based on the server needs becomes very important for your own personal cartel.
Looking at the auction house and seeing what items are listed can give you a good idea of what 
professions have already become flooded.    If Jewelcrafters exist everywhere with overstocked items
on the auction house.  Look to maybe level your Blacksmith or Leatherworker.  In 2 to 3 weeks many
players will be looking to start PVPing.  And all of those will need starter PVP gear.   Perhaps you have
a stronger raiding community that needs to have potions and flasks at the ready.  

Basing what profession to level is necessary to be maximizing your personal cartel profit lines.  A short
look at what is needed server wide can place more gold in your greedy goblin pockets.  

Good Luck and Good Hunting


Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbearjoe @ gmail. dOT com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up and I will buy you a glass of juice. 

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MOP Prep:   Enchanters Pt 1
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MOP Prep:   Prepping the Farmer
MOP Prep:  Get to the Points
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MOP Prep: Stuff to Gold,  Gold to Stuff
MOP Prep: Setting the Lineup
MOP Prep: Setting up the Cartel
MOP Prep:   Zero Balance Investment

First Day In Pandaland

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 7:45 PM

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Mommar checking in.

My first day at sitting to play Mists of Pandaria was definitely interesting.  

I started the day early by looking for cheap flips of Ghost Iron Ore and Bars that netted me a few hundred gold.   Surprisingly the ore wasn't as expensive as I had expected.   Remembering that during
the start of the Cataclysm expansion Ore got up to 400g a stack.  

After that I let my Jewelcrafter get started.   I had wanted to get her up and going as early as possible to help generate a good base-line profit.  Gems were already starting to kick into high gear with a lot more of the Perfect cuts being available on a much more regular basis.  After Prospecting about 20 stacks I leveled my Jewelcrafting profession,   posted up to sell the items and then moved on to my next stop.

My next profession was going to be Inscription.   Having already heard bad things already about inscription being depressed again I wasn't looking forward to this.  I trained and picked up some inexpensive Mists of Pandaria herbs on the auction house.   After crafting a few of the new mid level shoulder enchants and one Spirit of Harmony (it is on a midnight timer) I ended up learning a new glyph.   Glyph of Incite ends up being a mid level Warrior glyph but it was obvious that the glyph learning system was not bugged.   After posting up my crafts I moved to my third profession target.

My third target profession was going to be my Blacksmith.   I was concerned this one might hurt because of the expected target costs.  Normally if ore costs x then I'd expected to pay x times 2 or
higher for bars.  Having a miner I was all ready to shoot some ore down to her and have her make bars.  Low and behold Ghost Iron Bars were running at half the cost of the Ore itself.  I jumped on this deal and started to level my Blacksmith.   This is when I found out that the Anvil in Dalaran was bugged (in fact all of them are bugged).  You could learn most of the professions in Dalaran (Engineering wasn't available) but with the Anvil not working I had to port all the way to Orgrimmar.

So after getting 55 points from crafting on my Blacksmith I ended up posting up those items for sale (no one had posted any so I shot the moon when it came to pricing).    That's when I decided to start working on battle pet leveling.

After training just Northeast of the flying area (in Orgrimmar) I went out for my first pet conquest.  I figured just outside of Orgrimmar was the best bet.  Whoops,  that was a bad mistake.  I think I ran into the rabbit from Monte Python.   The Rabbit whopped up on my companion Willy a couple of times til I realized I needed to rethink this strategy.

After taking him into Ogrimmar and beating on some Dung Beetles til he had leveled,  I unlocked all three of my pet battle slots and did about 20 to 25 minutes of pet battles.    Earlier I had seen many pets that had been listed (common ones were going for very inexpensive.).  All of these pets were level One pets.   I was going to test a theory to see just how much someone would want to pay for a pet that was Level 5.  

After running around and collecting a few new pets (Spiny Lizard,  Dung Beetle and Rabbit) I decided it was time to get busy leveling.   I had debated furiously on who would be the first to go.  Deciding just today that it would be my Enchanter,  I started the beginning quest to get over to Pandaria.  One note,   The cataclysm expansion started with a boat ride to go to the water area.  When you're looking for the boat to go to Pandaria,  it's a blimp.  For some reason much to my chagrin it took me 5 minutes to figure this out and find it in the area.  Not my most shining moment (Yes Mommar does sometimes forget to read the quest text).

After going through the first 2 boat quests and then shimmying down the rope I looked at where I was at.   There were mobs everywhere.   Where there are mobs there are farming opportunities.   When you first start you are right in the middle of Allied soldiers.  I spent about 30 minutes farming on these mobs for cloth.  Walked out with about a stack and a half of Windwool Cloth.   The disappointing part was that other than the first quest that scored me a very nice new Staff.  The other quests were only for XP and gold.   One of the major reasons I wanted to get my enchanter going first was to DE the starter equipment for materials.  This surprised me since every other expansion had outfitted you with the new gear within the first 15 quests.  

I ended up my questing day on one of the town outskirts ready to pick up where I left off.   This area is full of minerals and mobs to be able to farm cloth and herbs and ore.  I could now see why the prices had not skyrocketed yet.   This weekend will change that as more casual players will end up logging on to play.

With my next session I will bring in my second wave of levelers to get started.  Including my Miner/Skinner to get my Leatherworker working as well.   With how Jewelcrafting is being set up the Jewelcrafting shuffle looks to be different than before.  It's highly possible that Disenchanting will occur from the Blacksmith and Leatherworking professions similar to what has occurred before with the neck pieces and rings of Jewelcrafting during previous expansions.   Having a wait and see attitude will be beneficial.

Hopefully tomorrow will be productive and some of the secrets of Pandaria will be unlocked.

Good Luck and Good Leveling


Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbearjoe @ gmail. dOT com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up and I will buy you a glass of juice. 

Previous Entries

The First 48
The Gospel of Goblin: MOP Edition
MOP Prep:  Last Minute Shopping
O Be Careful Litle Goblin What You Buy
The End of Warcraft? Whats Next?
Not So Bottomless Bag of Holding
MOP Prep:  PokeWOW Part 1
MOP Prep: PokeWOW Part 2
MOP Prep:   Enchanters Pt 1
MOP Prep:  Enchanters Part Deux
MOP Prep: What to save for the Pandas Pt 1
MOP:  Powerleveling Leatherworking in the Vale
MOP Prep:   Prepping the Farmer
MOP Prep:  Get to the Points
MOP Prep:  Reduction in Inventory
MOP Prep: Stuff to Gold,  Gold to Stuff
MOP Prep: Setting the Lineup
MOP Prep: Setting up the Cartel
MOP Prep:   Zero Balance Investment

Not So Bottomless Bag of Holding

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 8:00 AM

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There is one thing in common that every player has.   Every player starts the game and ends the game just the same way.   No matter if they play for one hour or for 1000 hours.   They all will need and use bags at some point.

There are lots of different bags in World of Warcraft.   From the Penny Pouch that is looted from the Headless Horsemen during Hallow's End event to the crafted profession bags for all of the professions. Each bag gives more slots to a player.  More slots give a player more room as they explore and adventure among Azeroth and beyond.

I was raised that if you didn't have something to say nicely,   write it down.  In this case a player who is leveling for the first time has very little if no gold.   There is a high chance they won't have 1500 gold to buy one of the large profession bags.   In many cases they might not have the 150 gold to buy an 18 or 20 slot crafted bag (Imbued Netherweave or Frostweave Bag).  This is why the highest concentration of bag sales will be Netherweave bags for resell.

So can this logic of limited money be applied to profession bags?   In fact it can.   Most players will not want to spend 1500g for the luxury of a 36 slot inscription bag (Royal Scribe's Satchel).  But these same players will be willing to pay 300-400g for a 32 slot inscription bag (Pack of Endless Pockets).

This same logic can be brought to all of the professions that have extra large bags requiring exotic materials,  and lower level bags that do not require the same extensive material list.  But is more apt to sell to newer players.

So being willing to list not just the high price bags,  but also the medium and lower end bags will allow you to profit on both ends of the scale.  Catering your product to players with large amounts of gold,  while also giving you the option of continual sales as players gain more and more gold in their coffers.

Here are some of the bags and their slots

Enchanting:

Otherworldly Bag (36 Slot)    
Mysterious Bag (32 Slot)

Leatherworking:

Trappers Traveling Pack (28 Slot)
Leatherworker's Satchel  (20 Slot)

Mining:

Triple Reinforced Mining Bag (36 Slots)
Mammoth Mining Bag (32 Slot)

Inscription:

Royal Scribe's Satchel (36 Slot)
Pack of Endless Pockets (32 Slot)

Jewelcrafting:

Luxurious Silk Gem Bag (36 Slot)
Bag of Jewels (32) Slot)

Engineering:

Elementium Toolbox
Titanium Toolbox

Fishing:
Lure Master Tackle Box (only fishing box available)

Herbalism:

Hyjal Expedition Bag (36 slot)
Emerald Bag (32 Slot)

The Lower slot bags require less materials,  so their price will be lower than the bigger bags requiring the exotic materials.   Having all levels of bags to offer depending on price of the manufacturing can net a player in that profession a large pile of gold.

Tailoring in Mists of Pandaria get ahold of a 28 slot bag called the Royal Satchel.   A large amount of materials is required to make each bag.   So many players will settle for lower economy bags or bags they obtain running instances.  There will always be players wanting the biggest and best.  For much of the stable money will be found in the lower and upper bags.

Even 6 slot and 14 slot bags found while questing are easy resells to new players.   A few gold here or there can bring extra slots to completely new players.    Look for a lot of 6-12 slot bags to be found on the auction house at profit making listing.

The idea of a bag economy is to cover all of the needs of the players.  If higher end bags end up being more profitable than middle level bags.  Then concentrating on those can obtain a higher profit range.  If the opposite is in case.  Generating more mid level slot bags and a few higher end could balance gold economy in your favor.

Either way making both sets of bags and being prepared with materials for each bag (and the recipes) before Mists of Pandaria open will set you to smooth sailing.

Good Luck and Good Hunting


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Kits, they're not just for breakfast anymore

Posted by J.E. Douglas at 8:00 AM

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Mommar here.

Many players when MOP starts will be starting from scratch with their professions.  They will be creating new monks and other classes.  Looking to add to their own personal arsenal of toons to quest and raid as quickly as possible.

One thing they have in common is that they will need to level professions.  Many will take the time to plunk out each point,  buying items from the Auction House or collecting the materials themselves.  Time they could be put to questing and raiding.

I did say time there,  and time is always an opportunity in the making.   We have power leveling guides available in many different places on the internet (my personal favorite is found at the website.
http://www.wow-professions.com buy you may have one of your own personal choices.

We need to pay attention to the part that gives exactly what materials are necessary to use this guide to bring a selected profession to its maximum.   This isn't a new idea.  Kit selling for professions have been occurring since the beginning of Warcraft.  But it is very profitable based on the margin between time/investment and sale.  

Prices will inflate at the beginning of Mists of Pandaria.  It's a guarantee of warcraft gaming life just as much as my cats will want to be fed in the morning.   Selling profession kits give us the opportunity to relieve players of having to run around and collect the materials.  

Let us take Alchemy for instance (which is guaranteed to be very popular with players).

We know that it takes according the guide we are using. (using approximate values)

• 59 x Peacebloom
• 59 x Silverleaf
• 93 x Briarthorn
• 20 x Mageroyal
• 33 x Bruiseweed
• 45 x Stranglekelp
• 20 x Liferoot
• 30 x Kingsblood
• 35 x Goldthorn
• 10 x Wild Steelbloom
• 25 x Sungrass
• 45 x Khadgar's Whisker
• 10 x Blindweed
• 40 x Gromsblood
• 30 x Sorrowmoss
• 15 x Dreamfoil
• 45 x Golden Sansam
• 18 x Mountain Silversage
• 50 x Felweed
• 10 x Terocone
• 35 x Dreaming Glory
• 10 x Netherbloom
• 20 x Talandra's Rose
• 5 x Pygmy Suckerfish
• 75 x Goldclover
• 30 x Tiger Lily
• 25 x Adder's Tongue
• 20 x Icethorn
• 40 x Lichbloom
• 60 x Cinderbloom
• 25 x Stormvine
• 31 x Azshara's Veil
• 25 x Heartblossom
• 5 x Volatile Life
• 25 x Twilight Jasmine
• 15 x Whiptail
• 15 Jasper
• 15 x Alicite
• 15 x Zephyrite or 15 Nightstone

If you combine the cost of these mats purchased individually you can easily get into the 10k to 15k purchased from the Auction house.     Now consider how difficult it would be to get alll of these within a weeks time just from your own farming?   Purchasing at low prices when they come up on the auction house.   Profession kits have been known to go for 20 to 25k or higher depending on demand.  And it's a guarantee that the first two weeks of Mists of Pandaria there will be high demand for everything.   

Perhaps Herbalism isn't one of your gathering professions.  You can take out your miner and collect the items necessary to level Blacksmithing or even Engineering.   To execute an idea like this takes planning and organization.  You would want to have the bag space to give the buyer all of the items.  Or if you have a guild of your own you can give them access to one of the slots of the guild to take the items for themselves.    Mailing between the buyer and seller might be tough simply because of the rules of Cash On Delivery in game mails.

Important links to the material kit list here:

Alchemy
Blacksmithing
Enchanting
Engineering
Inscription
Leatherworking
Tailoring
Cooking

(guides provided by http://www.wow-professions.com)

The idea here is that you are doing the heavy lifting and collecting at a price.   Players power leveling their new characters is not going to want to spend a large amount of hours collecting and buying materials.  Especially living at the whim of the Auction House.   We are all familiar at how test the auction house can be when we just need one more piece of ore to level.

Information and convenience are what puts money in a gold goblins pocket.    When you have the knowledge and the know how.  Players will pay a premium for that knowledge and your own gathering time.

Good Luck and Good Hunting


Want to get in contact with me? . Email me at Dragonbearjoe @ gmail. dOT com or find me on twitter at "@JMTCMommar" You can find me hanging out on the Shandris Server, chat me up and I will buy you a glass of juice. 

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You want to do WHAT????
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MOP Prep:  Get to the Points
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